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thezed · Sep 24, 2007, 05:39 PM // 17:39

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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

I think its safe to say most MMOs have a community that runs private servers... usually highly against the EULA and possibly illegal as well. If GW shut down, I think its extremely unlikely Anet would "allow" people to run their own servers for it, but I am quite confident people would anyway.

QFT. Privet servers will never be ALLOWED, but it may already have been done by someone.

AscalonWarrior · Sep 24, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by bhavv

GW might not shut down, but two years from now no one will be playing it.

Diablo 2? It's been... many many years from now and the servers are still running.

Mr_Cynical · Sep 24, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by Ghryphon

Why are you people thinking that GW is going to shut down????

Because ArenaNet have broken promises right, left and centre whenever they stood to make a quick buck out of it.

Promise: We'll release new Guild Wars campaigns with pricing and content levels equivalent to a triple-A title
Reality: Guild Wars 2 will follow a 'game + expansions' format, with the expansions offering similar levels of content to GW:EN but sold at full-price. Same price, less content.

Promise: We will improve the trading system (made during beta)
Reality: Er... well the fact that there is still such a place as Guru Auction should answer that for you

Promise: The game will be grind free
Reality: Any time anyone finds a way of making enough money to pay the fixed-price NPC gold sinks without grinding, it gets nerfed.

So to be honest Anet's promise that 'Guild Wars 1 will not close down' is about as reliable to me as if Gaile Gray personally promised to fly me to Mars tomorrow morning in a spaceship made from alligator teeth.

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Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior

Diablo 2? It's been... many many years from now and the servers are still running.

That's because Blizzard is making a fortune from WoW so the cost of running a few D2 servers doesn't mean much to them. Even with high sales of Guild Wars, Anet can't afford adequate server provision at the moment (tried to get into AB recently?).

Skuld · Sep 24, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

What makes you think people dont do this already?

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Antheus · Sep 24, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03

And I'm assuming emulated servers properly and correctly emulate all 1000 skills, all items, the complete mob AI, all the quests, collision detection, body blocking, ....

Nah, GW can't be emulated (at a playable level) because it's too much sheer work.

But logging in, running around, having mobs running around, sure. But that's not why people who play GW play it.

WoW is really trivial to implement. Mobs have no AI, quests are generic, there's no other real logic. Even with that, there's not a single quality server out there.

There's references to GW servers passed around, but there's nothing real behind it. Of course, different people, different expectations. If all you want is a world you run around in, that's great. But that doesn't mean it's a playable game.

Lord Sojar · Sep 24, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

I vote for private servers so I can deal 999 damage to everything and have 500 armor and solo DoA HM. kthx.

Faer · Sep 24, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48

I love how often these topics spawn.

Really. Where can I get some of that timer hax? I always have to wait until the end of the round before I get another chance for a BOOM! HEADSHOT!

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Originally Posted by Antheus

...WoW is really trivial to implement. Mobs have no AI...

What Warcraft were you playing?

[DE] · Sep 24, 2007, 11:00 PM // 23:00

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Originally Posted by Antheus

And I'm assuming emulated servers properly and correctly emulate all 1000 skills, all items, the complete mob AI, all the quests, collision detection, body blocking, ....

Nah, GW can't be emulated (at a playable level) because it's too much sheer work.

You have no idea how private servers work do you?

Antheus · Sep 25, 2007, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by The Phantom

You have no idea how private servers work do you?

1000% xp, 600-900 q1 crystaline, no level cap, 64 flamingo pets, ecto drop from every mob, ....

Like I said - what would a free server accomplish for those who play GW for what GW is?

[DE] · Sep 25, 2007, 01:33 AM // 01:33

Let me rephrase.

You have no idea how running private servers work do you?

manitoba1073 · Sep 25, 2007, 04:49 AM // 04:49

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Originally Posted by The Phantom

Let me rephrase.

You have no idea how running private servers work do you?

Ofcourse he dont. Otherwise he'd realize theres been GW private servers for awhile now.

wilebill · Sep 25, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

GW is going to have as long a life as StarCraft, if not longer.

MirageMaster · Sep 25, 2007, 05:10 AM // 05:10

Id love to have a single player version.

Divinitys Creature · Sep 25, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

Ofcourse he dont. Otherwise he'd realize theres been GW private servers for awhile now.

...when you click the GW icon on your desktop, that is the CLIENT FYI.

Agyar · Sep 26, 2007, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by Divinitys Creature

...when you click the GW icon on your desktop, that is the CLIENT FYI.

Wow, you're stupid. Do you really think people are going to be saying things like "there have been private/emulated GW servers for a long time" because they mistake their locally installed GW client to be a server?

Gwmaster · Sep 26, 2007, 12:12 AM // 00:12

lol, gw privates already exist, and im not lying since ive been following the progress of some. And yes i would like to run one, if i could...there would be almost no difference anyways, the social part in this game is dead.

Tiyuri · Sep 26, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24

There is one, it's called GWLP. It's the only one that's got anywhere useful, and it's very very early, in that only movement, chat, etc are working right now. All code for skills etc etc etc is server side, and will need to be redone, it's a huge project.

As for the people saying "there has been one for a while now" just because they've heard of the project, these people are stupid. Sure the project has been around a while now but we've only been alpha testing it a couple of days, and it's nowhere near a playable game.

Everyone here pretending to "know something" everyone else doesn't know is exaggerating the truth.

I can tell you I know for a fact certain Anet staff don't believe it can be done because of the sheer amount of coding required, however "impossible" it is not, it's a case of perseverance and team work, but you won't be playing Guild Wars out of Anets control any time soon.

X Cytherea X · Sep 26, 2007, 02:36 AM // 02:36

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Originally Posted by MirageMaster

Id love to have a single player version.

gw is already single player, lol L2P

Divinitys Creature · Sep 26, 2007, 03:20 AM // 03:20

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Originally Posted by Agyar

Wow, you're stupid. Do you really think people are going to be saying things like "there have been private/emulated GW servers for a long time" because they mistake their locally installed GW client to be a server?

Joke <------joke flying over your head
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:P <------your head

manitoba1073 · Sep 26, 2007, 05:25 AM // 05:25

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Originally Posted by Tiyuri

There is one, it's called GWLP. It's the only one that's got anywhere useful, and it's very very early, in that only movement, chat, etc are working right now. All code for skills etc etc etc is server side, and will need to be redone, it's a huge project.

As for the people saying "there has been one for a while now" just because they've heard of the project, these people are stupid. Sure the project has been around a while now but we've only been alpha testing it a couple of days, and it's nowhere near a playable game.

Everyone here pretending to "know something" everyone else doesn't know is exaggerating the truth.

I can tell you I know for a fact certain Anet staff don't believe it can be done because of the sheer amount of coding required, however "impossible" it is not, it's a case of perseverance and team work, but you won't be playing Guild Wars out of Anets control any time soon.

Tiyuri, I happen to know more about it than you think I do. Yes GWLP was out as you said its been out awhile now. Theres been 2 times it was out the first time it got shut down by Anerf, You know the dinner invite they had.

But I hate to break it to you but GWLP isnt the only one out there, and they do have a FULL SERVER RUNNING.